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Josepherdons’s "Felix Angel"

Tuesday, September 25th, 2007

el_critique: (Another surefire blog entry from Josepherdon)

 

(-email from an INC Member 8/9/2006 5:08PM)
Ang Iglesia Ni Cristo ay lubos na sumasampalataya na ang katuparan ng ibang anghel ay ang kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo. Ang kahulugan ng salitang anghel ay messenger, o kayaý sinugo o sugo(Rev. 7:2 YLT, Strong’s dictionary of the Greek testament p. 7:32). Hindi ito tumutukoy sa kalagayan kundi sa tungkulin (Luk. 1:19) Katunayan ay may tao sa kalagayan ngunit tinawag na anghel(Mat. 11:7-10 BTK-Trinidad), kaya ang salitang anghel ay hindi lamang tumutukoy sa mga anghel na espiritu sa kalagayan, maging sa tao ay maaaring ikapit ang salitang anghel kailanma’t sinugo ng Dios.
Natitiyak natin na ang ibang anghel na binabanggit sa Apoc. 7:2-3 ay tao sa kalagayan dahil ito ay may taglay ng tatak ng Dios, ang gawain niya ay magtatak, ang tatak ay ang Espiritu santo, at ang pagtatatak ay gawaing pangangnaral ng ebanghelyo (Efe. 1:13-14). Kaya’t natitiyak natin na ang anghel na ito ay sugong tagapangaral ng ebanghelyo.
Ang pagmumulan ng ibang anghel:
Ang dakomg pagmumulan ng ibang anghel ay sa sikatan ng araw o silanganan (Rev. 7:2 YLT, KJV). Ang katumbas ng silanganan o east sa Apoc. 7:2 ay “Anatoles heliou” sa Greek at “Mizrach” sa Hebrew na ang kahulugan ay Far East o Malayong silangnan (Rev. 7:2-3 Hebrew translation, Smith’s dictionary of the Bible vol.1 p.627)
Kaya’t tiyak din ang dakong pagmumulan ng ibang anghel o sugong tagapangaral ng ebanghelyo ay sa sikatan ng araw o malayong silangan na ang bansang kinatuparan ay ang Pilipinas, na halos nasa Gitnang panghereograpiya ng malayong silangan.
Panahon ng pag-akyat mula sa sikatan ng araw
“At pagkatapos nito ay nakita ko ang apat na anghel na nakatayo sa apat na sulok ng lupa, na pinipigil ang apat na hangin ng lupa, upang huwag humihip ang hangin sa lupa, o sa dagat man, o sa mga punongkahoy”(Apoc. 7:1).
Ang hangin na binabanggit ay hindi literal na hangin kundi isang digmaan(Jer. 4:11-13,19), at ang apat na sulok ng lupa ay tumutukoy sa apat na direksiyon ng mundo, north, east, south, and west (I Cro. 9:24) samakatuwid ang digmaang ito ay isang global war o digmaang pangbuong sanlibutan. Ito ang panahon o paglitaw ng ibang anghel o sugo ng Dios.
Ang apat na anghel na binabanggit sa Apoc. 7:1
The Treaty Of Versailles.
…..Four of the greatest political leaders of the world at that time- Woodrow Wilson, president of the United States, Lloyd George, prime minister of Great Britain, Clemenceau, premier of France and Orlando, premier of Italy-dominated the Versailles conference. They were known as the Big Four (World History p. 860)
Ang apat na anghel na binabanggit sa Apoc. 7:1 ay ang Big four, na syang pumigil sa digmaan.
Ang salitang anghel ay tumutukoy din sa mga hari o pinuno ng bansa(I Ped 2:13-14). Ang digmaang ito ay walang iba kundi ang digmaang sumiklab noong July 27, 1914 (The nations at war: A current history p. 8).
Ito ang panahon na kung kailan makikita ang pag-akyat ng ibang anghel o sugo sa malayong silangan o sa Pilipinas.
Kaya ang Iglesia Ni Cristo na pinangunahan ng kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo, ang katuparan ng hula sa Apoc. 7:2-3, ito ay opisyal na lumitaw sa bansang Pilipinas noong July 27, 1914, kaalinsabay ng unang digmaang pang buong sanlibutan.



I took the liberty to interpret the long explanation above and made a
comparison with the actual SEQUENCE OF EVENTS of historical and biblical events.


A simple diagram, a great deception
there are so many wrong about INC claim to fame for their angel Felix Manalo.
Let me enumerate some of them
INC is claiming that the INC “officially started when they registered their sect on July, 27, 1914″
1. So INC had UNOFFICIAL members that was baptized by Felix Manalo during the late 1913?
2. So the preaching made by Felix Manalo during the late 1913 was unofficial?
3. Felix Manalo was an UNOFFICIAL angel/preacher until he decided to register INC on July 27, 1914?
4. What are the implications of being unofficial to INC?
5. INC is claiming that the official registration of INC coincides with the start of WW1.
INC was registered July 27, 1914 <> (not equal) WW1 started July 28, 1914
THE BIG FOUR
Prime Minister David Lloyd George (UK)
Vittorio Orlando (Italy)
Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau (France)
President Woodrow Wilson (USA)
-The Big Four was formed AFTER the war
-The Big Four had different religion which Felix Manalo and INC considers as apostates
-Woodrow Wilson(USA) is a Presbyterian,
David Lloyd George(UK) is affiliated
with the Disciples of Christ
Felix Manalo is baptized as catholic
6. Felix Manalo started preaching way BEFORE the emergence of the the BIG FOUR?
the events should be in sequential right?
7. How did Felix Manalo was able to “cried with a loud voice” to the BIG FOUR?
was Felix Manalo present when the Paris Peace Conference was held on the year 1919?
there are a lot more questions, even excluding the Revelations 7:4 from Revelations 7:1-3 is really a big question for INC false claims. But by simply looking at the
crossing paths of SEQUENCE OF EVENTS in the diagram, there is no way that Felix Manalo is the angel stated in Revelations 7:2.
Even INC’s Pasugo is now denying their claim that Philippines is the Far East which contradicts they’re early publication on Pasugo.

Felix Manalo,
why art thou claim that your an angel.
Curse upon thee.



“…You turned this lie to truth”
James Hetfield of Metallica
(Harvester of Sorrow)

You want answers?!
You want answers!
You can’t handle the truth

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FAQ: Iglesia ni Cristo (Iglesia ni Cristo Facts)

Wednesday, September 19th, 2007

I Just saw this while surfing for good material:

(source: The Bereans)

by Justyn
[Updated 13.June.2004 by abugian to include population data.]

Cult Organization

Iglesia Ni Cristo (1914)

Founder

Mr. Felix Manalo Ysagun a.k.a. “Felix Ysagun Manalo” or “Ka Felix” (May 10, 1886-April 12, 1963

President Executive Minister

Eraño G. Manalo (1925-present)

Main Headquarter

Quezon City, Philippines

Philippine Membership

Baptized Converts - 6,224 (1997); 7,933 (1998); 13,247 (1999)
INC Population in the Philippines:
[Not an exact figure. Source: Adherents.com]
1974-79: 500,000 - 1,400,000
1984: 1,000,000
1996: 1,680,000
1998: 858,000
1999: 3,000,000

Source of Authority

  1. Teachings and prophetic interpretations of Felix Y. Manalo.
  2. The Holy Bible (any text version except those that doesn’t support their theology)
  3. Pasugo (first published 1939) or God’s Message Magazine - contains doctrines and commentaries written by the INC ministers.
  4. INC executive minister, authorities and local ministers.

Countries Penetrated (66)

  1. Africa - 8
  2. Central America - 4
  3. North America - (a) Canada - 6 (b) U.S.A. - 39
  4. South America - 2
  5. Caribbean - 1
  6. Asia - 23
  7. Australia & Oceania - 11
  8. Europe - 15

Unbiblical Beliefs

  1. Vehemently oppose the Biblical revelation of the Triune God.
  2. Believes in the absolute oneness of God the Creator in the Person of the Father.
  3. Believes the Son as the literal Word (which has no pre-existence) who became man. He was given power by the Father to do supernatural miracles. He is not God.
  4. Believes in an impersonal Holy Spirit, a power sent by the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is not God but one of the spirits sent by God.
  5. Believes the Father (Creator) and Son (creature) must be worshipped. The Son must be worshipped because the Father says so.
  6. Believes a person must hear the “gospel” from authorized INC messengers and INC ministers. They are the only ones who have God’s Holy Spirit in order for them to understand the Bible. 
  7. Believes the official name of the church is “Iglesia ni Cristo” while other names are not.
  8. Believes a person must be a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC), be water baptized, follow the church rules (must avoid the eating of “dinuguan,” avoid joining labor unions, avoid court sessions, do block voting, be under compulsory church attendance, practice giving to the church) and perform his good deeds as an INC member in order for him to be saved.
  9. Believes Felix Y. Manalo is the fulfillment of Isaiah 43:5-7; 46:11, and Rev. 7:2-3 prophecies.
  10. They also believe in “soul sleep,” a belief that at death, the souls dies. There is no consciousness. (A belief of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church - Ellen G. White).

How to Start a Conversation with an Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) Member

First, you can place a Christian tract on top of his working table or hand it to him personally. If he/she is a zealous I.N.C., he/she will be the one to open up the door of conversation.

Methods of Witnessing to an INC Member

  1. Pray that the Lord will open a door for a spiritual conversation between the both of you.
  2. Suggest a topic for both of you to discuss preferably on essential teachings (e.g. deity of Jesus Christ, Salvation, Authority, etc.). Do not dwell on peripheral issues such as the eating of “dinuguan”, tithes, manner of clothing, etc. for these cannot contribute to a person’s salvation.
  3. Always bear in mind that when an INC says “God” what he has in mind is always the “Father.” Therefore do not ever say to him, “I will prove to you that Jesus is God” because you have just said, “I will prove that Jesus is the Father.” Rather say, “I believe the Scripture not only tell us that Jesus has the nature of ‘man’ but also has the nature of ‘God’ as well. Could we check that out?”
  4. Always say, “The INC authorities said…” rather than “You said…” to avoid offending the person you’re talking to. This will also prevent him from building more walls against the gospel.
  5. Whenever the INC member quote a passage supporting their set of beliefs do not just jump to another passage to prove your point. Rather, explain first the context of the passage he just quoted before proceeding onto another supporting verse–do this only when you feel that he has fully understood your explanation. Remember “the Scripture supports each other and does not contradict one another.”
  6. Always throw a set of question so that he could think it over. Like this example below:

    Christian:  Who are you expecting to come during the last day? Is it the Father or the Son?

    INC: The Son (If he says “the Father” then you can point out Rev. 1:7 and ask him, “Who is the One coming with the clouds that was “pierced?” Surely it doesn’t mean the “Father” for according to the INC’s doctrine, He is “Spirit” in John 4:23)

    Christian: Now Who is the One speaking in Rev. 1:8 about Him being “the Alpha and the Omega… who is who was and who is to come, the Almighty?”

    INC: Well the One speaking is the Father, of course.

    Christian: But wait, haven’t you told me awhile ago that in verse 7 the One coming with the clouds is the Son. Then why did you understood verse 8 as the Father talking since it says very clearly “who is to come, the Almighty?”

  7. You can also ask him, “Are you willing to go to hell just because of someone else’s false teachings? Surely you won’t  get the INC ministers to be your advocate when you face God on the day of judgment. Can you?” And if he says “Of course not!” Then you can say, “That’s right! Even I do not depend on someone’s else’s preaching, rather I investigate and study it myself.”
  8. Before parting ways, ask permission if you can pray for him. If not, then lift him up in prayer during your private moments with God.

Things to Remember Before Witnessing to an INC Member

  1. Be sure to know his theology first before embarking on witnessing. Know why he believe what he believe.
  2. Study every Scripture passage that they misquote and twist in order to explaining that Jesus Christ was only human.
  3. Be very familiar with your Bible so that there will be no idle moments for him to interrupt what you’re saying.
  4. Be alert on every explanation he presents so that you will have something use these against the INC’s false doctrines. 
  5. Do not forget to share him the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.