10 years ago, some crazed individual conceptualized a devastating attempt to topple the United States and kill a lot of innocent lives… my 3rd cousin, being one of them…

9/11 changed everything. security, relations of governments and countries and racism… the aftermath of such tragic event also greatly affected our muslim and middle-eastern brothers and sisters, branding them as terrorists or plainly had a bad image to the rest of the world’s population…

10 years after? what have we learned? Obviously, this one Filipino individual named “Daryl” has never been aware of what the impact was… truthfully? all I can say to him is that he should shut up

I, too am a Filipino, so is my cousin who died there… and others more… but it’s fellow countrymen like this who act as if they know what things are, and yet, they hate to be criticized upon…

To you Mr. Bulan, may you be blessed with falling rocks on your head and tons of aviation fuel to burn you with…

UPDATE:

As his peers stirred up “educated” comments, he apologized… apparently, a half-hearted apology, so I believe that he is still a student? the future looks bleak… on whatever profession he will carry on…

Mr. Bulan, I do not feel the sincerity of your apology nor the admission of guilt for what you are trying to steer… well, the world is not complete without idiotic or darwinian individuals who expose themselves… and as for the last commenter… (a certain RONN PANTUA) I don’t see your point… you agree to such happening but condemn such action? how is that even effing possible? clearly, your ideologies are somewhat a cocktail of mixed political innuendos. a satire perhaps? grow your own nation…

Bottomline is that, we are mad and hungry for meat when we are heavily criticized but are tackless, disrespectful and insensitive when we make small talk - small talk that may have a very big impact to others, specially to those people who lost their loved ones during that day.

I’m no pro-america, neither do I promote a leftist ideology… It’s just I treat this as a personal insult and attack because I too, lost someone during 9/11…

Update #3:

Looks like we have not only a racist who started the whole thing but a hoax anarchist as well… Look at how he responds to such priceless and educated comments…

really? petrol again? we all know that the US has interests in Oil, So as Japan, Singapore, Philippines, Italy and all other countries who rely to it. We all know that the US has its own agendas, everyone does. it just so happens that the US is one country that can sustain such… Mr. Pantua, your reasons are a little too late… WE ALL KNOW THAT… you are more of a conspiracy theorist rather than an activist or a leftist.- And oh yes, I have close friends who are into those. and I know what they are fighting for: the more sensible stuff.

Maybe you are more of those people who believe that we are infested by reptillians nor that the earth is flat… look at the previous comment and smell the coffee… “Ang lakas ng loob mong magsabing “END OF THE ARGUEMENT” eh hindi naman tugma at angkop ang sinasabi mo sa mga edukadong komento na nailathala You, sir, are just riding the waves of publicity… trolling perhaps? remind me to wake you up after a few years and maybe, just maybe, your head grew a couple of brain cells…

Update #4 (9.13.2011):

Apparently there’s a new comment! phew! what a douchebag…

from a certain “Mr. JC Cabuyao” :

the argument of everyone of us is just the tip of the iceberg…. this is more of a top - secret military cover - up…. it’s just to put a lid to a big hole….

So the “everyone of you” is arguing about a thing that is way past everyone’s understanding? prove to me that this is a military coverup. (and you sir, are making an accusation that is from conspiracy theorists)

The fact of the matter is, people died… innocent lives lost and yet you praise and agree on such insensitive wallpost? why don’t we try crashing a plane to your house and let you feel what it is to “put a lid to a big hole”? as far as I am concerned, you have a big hole in your head… grow up, understand and learn how to respect…

The kind of people who think like this are inconsiderate bastards, they react without their thoughts - until such time they experience a similar tragedy… shame on you people who don’t think thrice before you react…

(On a side note, I had some people investigate the “identities” of these people. Sadly they are taking up a course in college that would brand them as “Educators” - thus validating one of the educated comments “…wala akong tinuturong ganyan“. I have to praise the good commentors whom I censored their names and pictures in sharing indirectly their sentiments with me… these are the kinds of future educators whom I will entrust my children. and not those like Mr. Bulan, Mr. Pantua and Mr. Cabuyao - whose points of view are so immature, insensitive, racist in nature and uneducated…)

Update #5:

RONN PANTUA. Do you know what the reasons are? I dont think so. YOU DONT HAVE ANY *BLEEEP* BASIS FOR YOUR REASONS/COMMENTS. Lives are lost… Will someone please shut him up??? You act as if you were the one who planned it yourself… I hope napalm falls on you, and only you…

Hi there peeps… I long have kept quiet about things and stuff… (mostly Lovelife Hah!, and I lost time to bash things, maybe because the change in presidency? )

Pasadena has sure made me busy… but that is not the case here: it’s how I once again got affected with a situation from a person whom I know personally, (well, he maintained my websites before and I guess, he’s one of the IT guys i know best and could be trusted) a person whom I know will keep quiet about things…

Well, I had a short chat with him lately. and what do you know? I was surprised to hear his story: a story that further enraged me about what’s wrong with these members? His story goes a lil something like this: (cue DJ )

Scott, (obviously not his real name) has been living with this INC member (uhm… I’ll name her Calista ) for 6 years, whom was married to another INC ex-officio “Bernard”. Scott was a member of their “prestigious religion” (sic) until his sophomore years where he realized that his beliefs were not of INC. Scott and Calista started their relationship even if Bernard and Calista were still staying together.

Scott and Calista defied everything until she sent Bernard away to the province. Since Bernard was an “ex-officio”, he was limited by his knowledge of trade and highly relied on Calista, who earns more than average. Bernard was a “mang-gagawa” before being expelled after being exposed of having sexual affairs with a Minister’s Daughter before Bernard and Calista were ever married.

Scott and Calista had a daughter and cohabited as husband and wife. Calista continued this existence; only few friends and family knew about it. Scott even suggested to fix things legally: that she should have filed annulment.

Years passed until they had problems like normal couples do: Scott looking for ways to diversify his time to other activities, while Calista continues to be successful in her career. Arguments were becoming regular like a prime-time soap opera: to some point Scott realized that he too had became “konsintidor” and he couldnt control her - as being dominant because she earns 10x than him.

Their fights were always about Calista being always right about things, and Scott being more of getting advices and comments from his woman-friends - which Calista hated and misinterpreted, because she only thought one thing: that Scott’s story was only biased to him.

Scott came to a point when he said enough. He was trying to find a way to quit the relationship but it wasn’t easy for him: because he thought about their daughter. During his dilemma, he met “Belle” who, although difficult for the both of them, accepted his situation.

It took Scott a week to finally to think, get courage and tell Calista that they are over: even though that he and belle have “officiated” their relationship into a romantic and serious one, he assured that that was not the case; and Calista admitted that she too, had problems that contributed to the break-up. Although Scott and Calista still stayed in the same house for their daughter.

There were times that Calista tried to win back Scott, but for him, it was over. Arguing was still there where it reached to a point that she asked him to leave. Since Scott, even at the beginning of his relationship with Calista, has gave his monthly paycheck to her, (He told me he did this everytime because Calista was in-charge of the budgeting, and he also admitted that he was not that good with handling it.) thus the reason why he had grown “reliant” on Calista giving him money.

Scott left that day without money, that he had to walk a couple of miles to Belle, whom quickly responded to his situation: She arranged Scott’s housing accommodation and she helped him back on his feet. They, slowly, tried to rebuild Scott’s life back.

There were times that Scott would visit his daughter, but Calista tried to win him back again. Calista even made advances that were really questionable, but Scott tried to keep his composure for a chance to see his daughter regularly.

A month passed, Calista asked him to go back to the house - because she was going to be assigned in another state and she needed Scott to take care of their daughter, wherein with Belle’s “forced” approval, he went back to the house.

Calista received word that her transfer will be cancelled but assured Scott that she will never ask her to leave and just continue a “friendly” relationship for the sake of their daughter. Belle did not approve this, but she had no choice then: since Scott was looking for a more profitable opportunity and both their funds were not enough to again look for a place to stay.

Months passed and Scott got a new employment opportunity. Although his salary was still small, he was after the experience and the long-time commitment - but there is a big difference though this time: That he is in-charge of his own salary and also bills, wherein he agreed upon.

There were times where Scott will borrow money from Calista since he wasn’t earning much yet - after all, he is still new in his workplace but eventually paid her when he got the chance.

I guess they had a crazy agreement of some sort - unusual but plausible, I was getting bored at his story but the last part caught my attention.

Lately, Calista found her former love interest: another “ex-officio” whom was friends with her legal husband and was also brought-down from “power” under similar reasons. “Xavier” always communicated with her, calls, sms messages, and even through social networking sites. Scott sensed that Calista changed into something he did not know. “It was a different person, and not the Calista I really knew…” Scott said. Calista even befriended her legal husband and informed him of her situation with Scott

Scott was never bothered about this, he was more happy for Calista: that she may have found someone that will eventually be with her. But, as days turned into weeks, things became worst. Calista and Scott’s “Friendship” diminished to no-more than “Hi’s and Hello’s”.

Things became much worst when Scott tried to borrow money from Calista again - Calista did not gave way: she was not even bothered if he walked 15 miles without food and water intake - and Calista shrugged about this, saying that it was not her fault anyway that he did not have money.

Scott was again being forced out of the house. with this time, Calista was just waiting for it to happen. “I just learned that, Calista wanted to go have her membership transfered - but by doing so, I must leave the house because there will be lots of visitations from those freaks…” Scott said.

I do not really approve of Scott’s situation ever since, but they are, eventually, human; they have the right to love and to be loved and the right to make mistakes.
I do understand Calista’s actions and that Scott was eventually “going to get it…”

But here’s the thing: You live with the father of your daughter whom still pays the bills, thus somehow doing a part of his responsibility… and now you want him to leave all because you are renewing your “faith”??? I see a perfect BS here… (as perfect as the ones who commented like their own @$$3$ were doing the talking…) You would do that all because people from your “cult” might know your current status and having the risk of you being expelled? BS… no wonder you failed to bring Scott back to your eternal damnation for all the eff I care…

As I have told people earlier, it’s not the faith… but its the members itself… I would praise a good answer, but no one has given me the right answer, except arrogance… a clear trademark…

It’s the Character and Arrogance, not the Faith…

It’s good to be back… well… it has been long since i posted a user reply but here’s one thing that’s good to bring back. From a certain INC member that goes by the name “Holy Man“

holy man Says:

March 8th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

I am an Iglesia ni Cristo member.

I was born in the church and held various offices including choir member, Sunday school teacher, secretary, and others.  However, recently I started to question not so much the teachings in the scripture, but rather the interpretation of the biblical meanings, and the decision making process of the church in general.

I have been to various local nationwide and overseas and observed (since I’m highly observant) wide ranges of variation in the way things are done and decided. The church has gotten so colossal and gained international church recognition that I felt it has undergone some sort of mutations from the original founded church, and this is usually what happens when an organization expands in numbers and members: there is no consensus over doing things, that is, each local makes judgment according to the number of people favoring a certain action, then it gets submitted to the district office, then to the central.  Those who oppose simply kept quite; the administration does not investigate; it accepts whatever recommendation of the district or locals and it’s not uncommon for lords over lords to say “do not question, just follow” and I heard this comments many times.

My reaction to this is “a blind leading a blind” and both of them needed to be saved.  There are no checks and balance over how things are done rather there is a struggle or even “kissing ass” just to get things done, but it criticizes the doctrines of other faiths.  Is this of God?For example, the indoctrination process changed over the years, wasn’t this a man made decision? nowhere in the scripture tells you that you have to wait a certain period of time to become a member of some religious organizations.

I believe that one is free to worship as he or she pleases and sees appropriate because as human beings we are creation of men—sinners in thoughts and actions–yet the church doesn’t seem to understand this. Another issue I’m grappling with is the problem of unity, it seems that the church wants a total control of its members, not allowing them to exercise their constitutional rights over issues that impact the members. It seeks to secure its interest over godly teachings? Finally, there is religious persecution that exist within the organization, again as a result of being lords over lords, and yes corruptions do exist.  At one time I had hard time believing, but the one who told was a member of the finance committee, and told me who, what, and how much few people were receiving. Fortunately, there is a separation between church and states because I find many of its teachings go against the constitutional rights of the citizens of the land.

I am an insider, so I know how are things are performed.  I find the fanatics severely “brain washed” and caused many others to be “brain washed” as well.

What many members would like to see is the reporting of the church financial statements, just like the practice of the Jehovah witness, that is report how much was collected and how much was spent.

I realized that finally, an INC member got some of my point… kudos to you Holy Man, hope you are one of the INC members that can “revolutionize” the exisiting church into its former glory…

The (mis)Adventures continues as el_critique hits a year older…

Looking back a year ago, I was tackling the issues about Pres. Arroyo of the Philippines.

Corruptions, Show-offs and such lies that plagued the Philippine Government were such  big issues that grew and grew leading to rallies and demonstrations here, there and everywhere…

What is on my mind right now is not having a change of governance but as to endure the her last two years of reign. I’d rather sacrifice those two years under her rather than having the next two years under someone who has the uncertainty to govern plus the inability to speak the second most spoken language on planet earth: English.

It has been a year… and I shall continue…

The following is from Ms. Jane Abao, a renowned communications activist. You can access her news site here

Mon Nov 5, 2007 12:26 PM HKT

Manila, Philippines - A church group suspected to be behind the troubles of a justice who failed to get appointed as Supreme Court justice surfaced lately.

According to Victor C. Agustin, columnist of Manila Standard Today, the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ) finally surfaced as the group that was behind Gregory S. Ong’s failure to get appointed as Supreme Court (SC) justice. In his column titled, Cocktales, Agustin described this church group as powerful that they would not stop there.

Sandiganbayan Justice Gregory Ong failed to make the appointment because of an unresolved citizenship issue. Agustin said that the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) even wanted Ong removed from Sandiganbayan, an anti-graft court where he sits now.

Agustin wrote, “The powerful Iglesia Ni Cristo has come out in the open not only to prevent Sandiganbayan Justice Gregory Ong from being appointed to the Supreme Court but also to have him unseated from the anti-graft court.” Accordingly, the petition was filed by the lawyer of this group who belongs to the Iglesia Ni Cristo.

The petition to disqualify Ong from the Sandiganbayan, is now pending in the Pasig Regional Trial Court. It was filed by lawyer Ferdinand Topacio, counsel of the Iglesia.

Agustin intimated that Justice Ong had convicted a brother-in-law of the Iglesia’s Executive Minister by the name of Victor Danao, a military colonel.

As described by Agustin, Ong allegedly “caught the ire of the Iglesia hierarchy after the Sandiganbayan justice convicted military colonel Victor Danao, husband of Pilar Manalo, who happens to be a sister of Iglesia Executive Minister Eraño Manalo.” Pilar, said to be the daughter of Felix Manalo, first executive minister of the church group, is known to have composed the songs for the Iglesia.

Meanwhile, the INC’s clout in government is found in their much-touted practice of block voting. Not only does the incumbent Philippine president have the backings of the Iglesia Ni Cristo, but those before her including senators and congressmen who curry their favor come national elections.

Agustin said Lawyer Topacio is being helped in his legal research by a number of Iglesia lawyers in his oral arguments scheduled before Judge Leoncio Janolo Jr.

Being a Sandiganbayan justice, Ong was among the contenders for the position to a vacant slot in the Supreme Court like Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Ruben Reyes, Court of Tax Appeals Presiding Justice Ernesto Acosta, Labor Secretary Arturo Brion, CA Justice Edgardo Cruz and Sandiganbayan Justice Francisco Villaruz Jr. In July, this year, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo appointed Court of Appeals Presiding Justice Ruben Reyes as Associate Justice to the vacant slot.

Earlier it was reported by Aries Rufo of NewsBreak (02/08/2007) that appointed SC justice Ruben Reyes had the backing of the Iglesia ni Cristo and another church group. Reyes turned 68 last January 3, has only one year and two months to serve in the Tribunal before the compulsory retirement of 70.

The non-appointment of Gregory Ong to the high court is more than just the issue of his citizenship, an evangelist has charged recently. More so, the threat of his being removed from the antigraft court.

According to Eliseo Soriano, the un-warranted influence of the Iglesia Ni Cristo in the affairs of the government is to instill fear among the justices so that they will not meddle with the affairs of the INC.

Saying he admires Justice Gregory Ong for his partiality in judging cases and his courage in carrying out his task, Soriano said Ong has the backing of his congregation, the Church of God, International, more popularly known as Ang Dating Daan (The Old Path). “Tell Justice Ong to carry on. We are all behind him.” Soriano said through live telecast from the United States before thousands of his followers.

Soriano is a Filipino evangelist now preaching overseas and leads a world-wide congregation of about 4 million. His congregation is all the more growing geometrically with weekly baptisms in thousands in the country and abroad as far as Africa, despite persecutions. Soriano was forced to leave the country for open threat on his life.

Ang Dating Daan as a program had been suspended many times by the Movie and Television Review Classification Board (MTRCB) under the Office of the President of the land for reasons related to the INC. Soriano had been attacking INC beliefs, particularly calling Christ a man, tithing regulations, and falsified history. At one time, one reason for the suspension of the program was Soriano’s calling the church-group, “Iglesia Ni Manalo” (church of Manalo) which the group resented.

UPDATE: Manila Times Jomar Canlas reported today that the judge handling this case, Judge Leoncio Janolo Jr., has been penalized by the Supreme Court because of the “delays in resolving cases.” He was fined P11, 000 ($250).

(A “Katibayan sa Pagsamba” - one proof that I am an INC. (Luckily, I hell will be “dismembering” myself and will never use such piece of crap or be a member of the INC - which is really a not-funny, super-organized big joke.)

I featured a certain Rizalino Arrabis on my last post. I thought that he was the one so “intelligent” (sic) enough to explain things about the INC and contradict (in a nice and educated manner) my or other’s posts and comments. The hell I thought wrong.

I never expected that Mr. Arrabis is such an Orc-p.s.-ing dork. He (or she - judging by the way it talks like a cigar-stuffed deranged grandma)even flooded me with comments that were so spaced out off topic, only to find out that he was referring to another site. (It’s just like in order to tie your shoes, you’d have to go to the supermarket just to tie your shoe.)

Now Mr. Arrabis (or Mr. Cannabis), don’t you know how to read? maybe you are too old for the internet that you mistook this blog for a news article. Hell like the INC are so freaked out when someone criticizes them, it shows that they are not a religion, but just a bunch of i’ll mannered fanbois.

Finally, a very “Educated” Comment… Kudos To Rizalino L. Arrabis (Most Probably from Tamuning, Guam… please verify sir ) I dont really get ”educated” comments like this… 

1. Rizalino L. Arrabis Says:
   October 24th, 2007 at 4:21 am e

   I was in grade five when I first realized that a lot of people were persecuting the Iglesia Ni Cristo for I had several classmates then who were members of the said group. They were subjected to jeers and mockery in the presence of teachers and parents without them lifting a finger to stop the abuse. My classmates then were being shouted at even in public. All of my I.N.C. classmates were my best of friends because they behaved quite different if compared to others of the same age and grade.
   My father, who was a public school teacher, and grandfather then would always coax me not to mingle with troublemakers in school. This was the reason why I chose my I.N.C. classmates as my playmates and lunchmates. They were so nice to me especially during lunch for I end up eating several delicacies for we shared our food together. In return, I gave them protection from the bullies who did the abuses for it was apparent to me that these people were not doing anything wrong. They were just behaving within the standards of society. I did not become their classmates in high school for they stopped schooling because of poverty. Yet, the friendship was still there because on my way to school and back, I would sometimes see them giving pasture to their farm animals. Whenever such occasion arises, I always depart from my conversations with them with a happy smile for my bonding never ceased with the passage of time. Sometimes, I would be bringing home lots of fruit for they never stopped doing their hospiatality to me.
   A few years later, I went to the United States to join the Navy and without knowing it, my bonding with the I.N.C. members continued. As an expatriate longing for friendship, it became clear to me that my best optionwas to befriend the I.N.C. community. For it’s them who will offer their unsolicited help like rides to work for free without asking something in return. It’s them who acted like your father, mother, brothers, and sisters in the absence of your real ones. What more can I say?
   I went to Japan for a permanent change of duty station. This is where I became an Iglesia Ni Cristo. For why should I resent them? Why should I reject their teachings? From the solemnity and discipline of their worship services, true teachings, spirit of brotherhood, unity in faith, etc., etc., I never found one that is offensive to my sound judgment. It deals purelywithin the confines of a true christian church and with the gospel preached by the prophets, apostles, and Jesus Christ.
   Perhaps, because of my longing to see my province, Cebu, I would oftentimes reminisce of my past and I always think of my Iglesia Ni Cristo classmates even in my dreams. They seemed to be the same. They appeared to me as if we were still in our elementary years. The elements of innocence, hospitality, playfullness, and brotherhood are still so prevalent in their actions. And one day, I had to go home for my father died, a victim of the same people who abused my classmates. I had to go home after thirty two long years of being away.
   The abuses to my classmates were also done to my father. The skeleton of a soon-to-be chapel then of the Iglesia Ni Cisto in my town was destroyed by bullies headed by a town policeman. The same policeman raped two women while in jail for trump-up charges and I know that my father was in pain when he died. Someday, justice will come for not everyone is sleeping. Woe unto those who thought that they had escaped punishment. Poetic justice had come for the policeman was allegedly killed by a sparrow unit of the New Peoples Army. I call that as the irony of justice. During the wake, my Iglesia Ni Cristo classmates were present and we hugged one another as bothers-in-christ. The emotions were mixed and though sadness was in the air because of the demise of my father, still the atmosphere of happiness was not lacking. For why would you not laugh in the presence of your dear classmates and loved ones? Why not laugh when your past glory is being replayed through the recollections of your classmates? Why would you not laugh in the presence of your brothers-in-christ? I just felt that I am a son who lost his father but found everything
   worthwhile in my classmates, my brothers-in- christ. My classmates are now well-off in life. I did not rent any vehicle during my stay in Cebu. A car was provided to me free of charge. Even when we visit the famous resorts of my hometown, Daanbantayan, Cebu. I am still their classmate, friend, and brother. I will always treasure them for without them, I am nothing but a lost soul. Give love then to the Iglesia Ni Cristo. Just listen and go with them. You have nothing to worry but the ignorance and fanaticism of the centuries imposed by invaders in search of gold and silver.

Although my views are not changed by such passion which Mr. Arrabis has, (although he moved me with such…) it was relentlessly shunned by such comments like:

(From Lennon Bautista of Makati and Batangas City, Philippines - lennox7678@yahoo.com.ph)

The Who? Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 10:01 am e

Ako po ay INC pero d ko alam na sa amin pla yung Alagad party list na sinasabi mo. At 22o po na depende sa district kung cnong iboboto nmin kc iba ang ibinoto ng INC sa Batangas e. Porke ba’t miembro ng INC ang ilan sa kasapi sa Alagad means sa INC na yun. hahaha! baka amin din ang Jollibee at McDo. Galing mo pa namang mag-english pero bulok ng logic mo. In short, BOBO ka pa rin. Ba’t d mo tanungin ang ALAGAD mismo kung sa INC cla. Natatakot ka cguro na mapahiya sa sarili mong BLOG ano. Well gudluck na lang sa BLOG mo… Mas laliman mo pa english mo para mas mukha kang kahanga-hanga pero sana nmn e may sense…ARAY!!! Tagos ba? hehehehe.

The Who? Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 10:16 am e

Comment para kay Phantom…

Ang isyu d2 ay kung sa INC ang ALAGAD at d kung ano pa man na pilit mong isinisingit. Ganyan na ba talaga kadesperado ang sekta mo? Nandung pati pagkamatay nina Napoleon, Alexander at Marcos ay napasali? Baka nmn gus2 mo na ding isali ang Global Warming. hehehe. Pls comment on the issue and not just using this BLOG para manira. Palagay mo ba paniniwalaan ka ng mga readers. hello… D sintanga mo ang mga readers d2 ano! Back 2 d issue… Amin ba ang ALAGAD? pa2nayan ninyo? Pag napa2nayan nyo, magpapatiwalag na ako sa INC… and that is a promise.

P.S.
relevant sa issue ang gus2 kong comment mo ha. Baka pati ikinamatay ng isda sa Manila Bay ay isali mo? isa ka pang BOBO! Wala kang pagkakaiba kay El Diablo este El Critique.. hehehe. TAGOS na nmn!

The Who? Says:
October 5th, 2007 at 10:42 am e

Exhibit A:
The bird: Si Felix daw yun(ravenous bird)…e bat kalapati yun? hahahaha
palpak! ravenous na pla ang mga kalapati ngaun…hekhekhek..

Exhibit B:
A URL link…. NOT FOUND !!!! tsktsktsk! ayus evidence mo ah..not found! palpak na naman! hekhekhek

Exhibit C:
…belongs 2 religious group… Pre, alam mo ba meaning nang word na belong.. nasasama o kasama at hindi nagmamay-ari!

PURO PALPAK ANG EVICENCE MO AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gawa ka na lang kaya ng party list mo… “PALPAK” ang ipangalan mo….hekhekhek. O kaya naman ay “ANOBAYAN” hahahaha. Pde ring “CIBAKIN” nyahahahaha. kaka2wa nmn BLOG mo. Tnx sa pag repost ha. napasaya mo ako.

Again, such comments contradict the justifications of Mr. Arrabis… Pity…Pity…Pity… I do not see any relevant arguements with Mr. Bautista’s comments rather just to flame; a common “practice” I get from your “bretheren”…

Given such views by Mr. Arrabis and Mr. Bautista, we can only have a bottom line for this agenda: That we are all entitled to our own views and criticisms; and that, we stand to criticize and/or accept such facts. I for one have my own standing; a stand to what I believe is right, having my own freedom and not a biased freedom protected by such congregational acts of manipulation, deceit and conspiracy…

“Bato bato sa langit ang tamaan ay mga fanbois…

el_critique: (Another surefire blog entry from Josepherdon)

 

(-email from an INC Member 8/9/2006 5:08PM)
Ang Iglesia Ni Cristo ay lubos na sumasampalataya na ang katuparan ng ibang anghel ay ang kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo. Ang kahulugan ng salitang anghel ay messenger, o kayaý sinugo o sugo(Rev. 7:2 YLT, Strong’s dictionary of the Greek testament p. 7:32). Hindi ito tumutukoy sa kalagayan kundi sa tungkulin (Luk. 1:19) Katunayan ay may tao sa kalagayan ngunit tinawag na anghel(Mat. 11:7-10 BTK-Trinidad), kaya ang salitang anghel ay hindi lamang tumutukoy sa mga anghel na espiritu sa kalagayan, maging sa tao ay maaaring ikapit ang salitang anghel kailanma’t sinugo ng Dios.
Natitiyak natin na ang ibang anghel na binabanggit sa Apoc. 7:2-3 ay tao sa kalagayan dahil ito ay may taglay ng tatak ng Dios, ang gawain niya ay magtatak, ang tatak ay ang Espiritu santo, at ang pagtatatak ay gawaing pangangnaral ng ebanghelyo (Efe. 1:13-14). Kaya’t natitiyak natin na ang anghel na ito ay sugong tagapangaral ng ebanghelyo.
Ang pagmumulan ng ibang anghel:
Ang dakomg pagmumulan ng ibang anghel ay sa sikatan ng araw o silanganan (Rev. 7:2 YLT, KJV). Ang katumbas ng silanganan o east sa Apoc. 7:2 ay “Anatoles heliou” sa Greek at “Mizrach” sa Hebrew na ang kahulugan ay Far East o Malayong silangnan (Rev. 7:2-3 Hebrew translation, Smith’s dictionary of the Bible vol.1 p.627)
Kaya’t tiyak din ang dakong pagmumulan ng ibang anghel o sugong tagapangaral ng ebanghelyo ay sa sikatan ng araw o malayong silangan na ang bansang kinatuparan ay ang Pilipinas, na halos nasa Gitnang panghereograpiya ng malayong silangan.
Panahon ng pag-akyat mula sa sikatan ng araw
“At pagkatapos nito ay nakita ko ang apat na anghel na nakatayo sa apat na sulok ng lupa, na pinipigil ang apat na hangin ng lupa, upang huwag humihip ang hangin sa lupa, o sa dagat man, o sa mga punongkahoy”(Apoc. 7:1).
Ang hangin na binabanggit ay hindi literal na hangin kundi isang digmaan(Jer. 4:11-13,19), at ang apat na sulok ng lupa ay tumutukoy sa apat na direksiyon ng mundo, north, east, south, and west (I Cro. 9:24) samakatuwid ang digmaang ito ay isang global war o digmaang pangbuong sanlibutan. Ito ang panahon o paglitaw ng ibang anghel o sugo ng Dios.
Ang apat na anghel na binabanggit sa Apoc. 7:1
The Treaty Of Versailles.
…..Four of the greatest political leaders of the world at that time- Woodrow Wilson, president of the United States, Lloyd George, prime minister of Great Britain, Clemenceau, premier of France and Orlando, premier of Italy-dominated the Versailles conference. They were known as the Big Four (World History p. 860)
Ang apat na anghel na binabanggit sa Apoc. 7:1 ay ang Big four, na syang pumigil sa digmaan.
Ang salitang anghel ay tumutukoy din sa mga hari o pinuno ng bansa(I Ped 2:13-14). Ang digmaang ito ay walang iba kundi ang digmaang sumiklab noong July 27, 1914 (The nations at war: A current history p. 8).
Ito ang panahon na kung kailan makikita ang pag-akyat ng ibang anghel o sugo sa malayong silangan o sa Pilipinas.
Kaya ang Iglesia Ni Cristo na pinangunahan ng kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo, ang katuparan ng hula sa Apoc. 7:2-3, ito ay opisyal na lumitaw sa bansang Pilipinas noong July 27, 1914, kaalinsabay ng unang digmaang pang buong sanlibutan.

---

I took the liberty to interpret the long explanation above and made a
comparison with the actual SEQUENCE OF EVENTS of historical and biblical events.

A simple diagram, a great deception
there are so many wrong about INC claim to fame for their angel Felix Manalo.
Let me enumerate some of them
INC is claiming that the INC “officially started when they registered their sect on July, 27, 1914″
1. So INC had UNOFFICIAL members that was baptized by Felix Manalo during the late 1913?
2. So the preaching made by Felix Manalo during the late 1913 was unofficial?
3. Felix Manalo was an UNOFFICIAL angel/preacher until he decided to register INC on July 27, 1914?
4. What are the implications of being unofficial to INC?
5. INC is claiming that the official registration of INC coincides with the start of WW1.
INC was registered July 27, 1914 <> (not equal) WW1 started July 28, 1914
THE BIG FOUR
Prime Minister David Lloyd George (UK)
Vittorio Orlando (Italy)
Prime Minister Georges Clemenceau (France)
President Woodrow Wilson (USA)
-The Big Four was formed AFTER the war
-The Big Four had different religion which Felix Manalo and INC considers as apostates
-Woodrow Wilson(USA) is a Presbyterian,
David Lloyd George(UK) is affiliated
with the Disciples of Christ
Felix Manalo is baptized as catholic
6. Felix Manalo started preaching way BEFORE the emergence of the the BIG FOUR?
the events should be in sequential right?
7. How did Felix Manalo was able to “cried with a loud voice” to the BIG FOUR?
was Felix Manalo present when the Paris Peace Conference was held on the year 1919?
there are a lot more questions, even excluding the Revelations 7:4 from Revelations 7:1-3 is really a big question for INC false claims. But by simply looking at the
crossing paths of SEQUENCE OF EVENTS in the diagram, there is no way that Felix Manalo is the angel stated in Revelations 7:2.
Even INC’s Pasugo is now denying their claim that Philippines is the Far East which contradicts they’re early publication on Pasugo.

Felix Manalo,
why art thou claim that your an angel.
Curse upon thee.

“…You turned this lie to truth”
James Hetfield of Metallica
(Harvester of Sorrow)

You want answers?!
You want answers!
You can’t handle the truth

Disclaimer: All and any opinions, advice, statements or other information contained in any messages posted or transmitted by any third party are the responsibility of the author and not by any organization affiliated with the author. We encourage visitors of this website to report any objectionable message to josepherdon@yahoo.com.

I Just saw this while surfing for good material:

(source: The Bereans)

by Justyn
[Updated 13.June.2004 by abugian to include population data.]

Cult Organization

Iglesia Ni Cristo (1914)

Founder

Mr. Felix Manalo Ysagun a.k.a. “Felix Ysagun Manalo” or “Ka Felix” (May 10, 1886-April 12, 1963

President Executive Minister

Eraño G. Manalo (1925-present)

Main Headquarter

Quezon City, Philippines

Philippine Membership

Baptized Converts - 6,224 (1997); 7,933 (1998); 13,247 (1999)
INC Population in the Philippines:
[Not an exact figure. Source: Adherents.com]
1974-79: 500,000 - 1,400,000
1984: 1,000,000
1996: 1,680,000
1998: 858,000
1999: 3,000,000

Source of Authority

1. Teachings and prophetic interpretations of Felix Y. Manalo.
2. The Holy Bible (any text version except those that doesn’t support their theology)
3. Pasugo (first published 1939) or God’s Message Magazine - contains doctrines and commentaries written by the INC ministers.
4. INC executive minister, authorities and local ministers.

Countries Penetrated (66)

1. Africa - 8
2. Central America - 4
3. North America - (a) Canada - 6 (b) U.S.A. - 39
4. South America - 2
5. Caribbean - 1
6. Asia - 23
7. Australia & Oceania - 11
8. Europe - 15

Unbiblical Beliefs

1. Vehemently oppose the Biblical revelation of the Triune God.
2. Believes in the absolute oneness of God the Creator in the Person of the Father.
3. Believes the Son as the literal Word (which has no pre-existence) who became man. He was given power by the Father to do supernatural miracles. He is not God.
4. Believes in an impersonal Holy Spirit, a power sent by the Father in the name of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is not God but one of the spirits sent by God.
5. Believes the Father (Creator) and Son (creature) must be worshipped. The Son must be worshipped because the Father says so.
6. Believes a person must hear the “gospel” from authorized INC messengers and INC ministers. They are the only ones who have God’s Holy Spirit in order for them to understand the Bible. 
7. Believes the official name of the church is “Iglesia ni Cristo” while other names are not.
8. Believes a person must be a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC), be water baptized, follow the church rules (must avoid the eating of “dinuguan,” avoid joining labor unions, avoid court sessions, do block voting, be under compulsory church attendance, practice giving to the church) and perform his good deeds as an INC member in order for him to be saved.
9. Believes Felix Y. Manalo is the fulfillment of Isaiah 43:5-7; 46:11, and Rev. 7:2-3 prophecies.
10. They also believe in “soul sleep,” a belief that at death, the souls dies. There is no consciousness. (A belief of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church - Ellen G. White).

How to Start a Conversation with an Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) Member

First, you can place a Christian tract on top of his working table or hand it to him personally. If he/she is a zealous I.N.C., he/she will be the one to open up the door of conversation.

Methods of Witnessing to an INC Member

1. Pray that the Lord will open a door for a spiritual conversation between the both of you.
2. Suggest a topic for both of you to discuss preferably on essential teachings (e.g. deity of Jesus Christ, Salvation, Authority, etc.). Do not dwell on peripheral issues such as the eating of “dinuguan”, tithes, manner of clothing, etc. for these cannot contribute to a person’s salvation.
3. Always bear in mind that when an INC says “God” what he has in mind is always the “Father.” Therefore do not ever say to him, “I will prove to you that Jesus is God” because you have just said, “I will prove that Jesus is the Father.” Rather say, “I believe the Scripture not only tell us that Jesus has the nature of ‘man’ but also has the nature of ‘God’ as well. Could we check that out?”
4. Always say, “The INC authorities said…” rather than “You said…” to avoid offending the person you’re talking to. This will also prevent him from building more walls against the gospel.
5. Whenever the INC member quote a passage supporting their set of beliefs do not just jump to another passage to prove your point. Rather, explain first the context of the passage he just quoted before proceeding onto another supporting verse–do this only when you feel that he has fully understood your explanation. Remember “the Scripture supports each other and does not contradict one another.”
6. Always throw a set of question so that he could think it over. Like this example below:

   Christian:  Who are you expecting to come during the last day? Is it the Father or the Son?

   INC: The Son (If he says “the Father” then you can point out Rev. 1:7 and ask him, “Who is the One coming with the clouds that was “pierced?” Surely it doesn’t mean the “Father” for according to the INC’s doctrine, He is “Spirit” in John 4:23)

   Christian: Now Who is the One speaking in Rev. 1:8 about Him being “the Alpha and the Omega… who is who was and who is to come, the Almighty?”

   INC: Well the One speaking is the Father, of course.

   Christian: But wait, haven’t you told me awhile ago that in verse 7 the One coming with the clouds is the Son. Then why did you understood verse 8 as the Father talking since it says very clearly “who is to come, the Almighty?”

7. You can also ask him, “Are you willing to go to hell just because of someone else’s false teachings? Surely you won’t  get the INC ministers to be your advocate when you face God on the day of judgment. Can you?” And if he says “Of course not!” Then you can say, “That’s right! Even I do not depend on someone’s else’s preaching, rather I investigate and study it myself.”
8. Before parting ways, ask permission if you can pray for him. If not, then lift him up in prayer during your private moments with God.

Things to Remember Before Witnessing to an INC Member

1. Be sure to know his theology first before embarking on witnessing. Know why he believe what he believe.
2. Study every Scripture passage that they misquote and twist in order to explaining that Jesus Christ was only human.
3. Be very familiar with your Bible so that there will be no idle moments for him to interrupt what you’re saying.
4. Be alert on every explanation he presents so that you will have something use these against the INC’s false doctrines. 
5. Do not forget to share him the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

An excerpt from wikipedia:

 

“Ang Doxolohiya”

This is the doxology used in Iglesia ni Cristo worship services.

Purihin natin ang ama

Mabuhay sa pag-ibig ng anak

Taglayin ang espiritung banal

Ang Diyos ay lagi nating sambahin. Amen.

Approximate Translation:

Let us praise the Father

Live in the love of the Son

Carry [with us] the holy spirit

Let us always worship God. Amen.

Again, From wikipedia:

The Iglesia ni Cristo (IPA: [iːˈglɛ.ʃɑː niː ˈkriːstəʊ]) (also known as INC or Iglesya ni Kristo ; literally Tagalog for Church of Christ) is an independent, nontrinitarian^[1] Christian church that originated in the Philippines^[2] The INC was incorporated in the Philippines by Felix Y. Manalo on July 27, 1914;^[3] The church professes to be the reestablishment of the original church founded by Jesus and claims that the original church was apostatized. It does not accept the doctrine of the Trinity, as well as the Divinity of Jesus.^[4][5]

^{So, the INC does not believe the Trinity and yet, they sing about it everytime as their doxology?}

^{Clearly, the INC is the National Lampoon of Religions, a spoof of a number of religions, a coconction of various doctrines, Plagiarismic episodes… If those doctrines they copied were copyrighted, chances are to this day, it will be called piracy.}